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Teaching leadership is hard. Join professors Dan Jenkins and Lauren Bullock, leadership educators with 30+ yrs experience in curricular and co-curricular leadership programs in higher education, as they capture in dialogue questions from their peers and share knowledge and expertise on facilitating leadership learning. Passionate about leadership education? Want to expand your resource toolbox with practical strategies for teaching, learning, and program design? This is the podcast for you!
Episodes

Tuesday Oct 18, 2022
NDSL #174: Gaming in Leadership with Drs. John Banter and John Egan
Tuesday Oct 18, 2022
Tuesday Oct 18, 2022
In this episode, Dan converses with Drs. John Banter and John Egan about the most recent issue of New Directions for Student Leadership, "Games in Leadership Learning". The issue focuses on integrating games into leadership courses and programming. The special issue co-editors share the research behind the push for using games in leadership learning, including the high-risk, high-reward concept. Some of the resources shared in this episode include:
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Tuesday Oct 11, 2022
Mentoring Student Affairs Professionals with Dr. Wanda Lewis-Campbell
Tuesday Oct 11, 2022
Tuesday Oct 11, 2022
In this episode, Dan and Lauren meet with Lauren's mentor, Dr. Wanda Lewis-Campbell. Wanda shares her entrance into Student Affairs and the powerful impact Phyllis Marshall had on her becoming an empowered leader in higher education. The trio discusses advice for keeping students at the center of your work in college.

Tuesday Oct 04, 2022
Drs. Kathy Allen and Bill Smedick
Tuesday Oct 04, 2022
Tuesday Oct 04, 2022
In this episode, Drs. Kathy Allen and Bill Smedick share how a chance meeting at NACA and a follow-up phone call started a nearly 40-year mentor-mentee relationship. Both discuss a deep appreciation for nature and evolution and how their shared values and passions contribute to the communities of practice in leadership education. Note: Bill Smedick appeared in episode #18 with Melanie Bullock. They shared NACA's mission and contribution to higher education.

Tuesday Sep 27, 2022
Tuesday Sep 27, 2022
In this episode, Dan and Lauren chat with Drs. Audrey Murrell and Stacy Blake-Beard, co-authors of Mentoring Diverse Leaders, as they share insights from their research on mentoring. Both emphasize the power of professional relationships in the workplace and how effective peer mentoring can be.

Tuesday Sep 20, 2022
Tuesday Sep 20, 2022
In this episode, Dan and Lauren discover the genesis of the mentoring relationship between Drs. Susan R. Komives and John P. Dugan. Susan and John share details from their first meeting at the University of Maryland, College Park, and how they continue supporting each other's professional and personal lives. All discuss how serendipity plays a role in connecting with mentors and colleagues and the importance of care and love in building relationships.

Tuesday Sep 13, 2022
Season 7 Intro: Mentoring in Leadership Education
Tuesday Sep 13, 2022
Tuesday Sep 13, 2022
Welcome to Season 7! In this episode, Dan and Lauren introduce the theme for the Fall 2022 season of the podcast. The focus will be on mentoring in leadership education. The topic is essential as higher education faculty, staff, administrators, and students need even more support during the disruptive times we've experienced. In the preview, Dan and Lauren share their current teaching schedule, research projects, and service opportunities.
Some of the events mentioned in this episode include:
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Monday Aug 08, 2022
Monday Aug 08, 2022
In this episode, Dan and Lauren discuss topics related to student leadership in engineering with New Directions for Student Leadership special issue co-editors Drs. Meagan R. Kendall and Cindy Rottmann. Meagan and Cindy share how this issue came to fruition and the critical need for more scholarship in engineering leadership studies. All discuss how the concepts in the articles can apply to engineering, STEM, and other areas of higher education.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
ASEE Engineering Leadership Development Division (LEAD) LinkedIn Page
Journal of Leadership Studies symposium article "Infusing Leadership Education in the Undergraduate Engineering Experience: A Framework from UCF's eli2"

Tuesday May 31, 2022
Tuesday May 31, 2022
In this episode, Dan and Lauren hear from ILA Leadership Education Academy co-chairs Dr. Kerry Priest and Rian Satterwhite. The group discusses the foundations of the program designed to improve teaching and programming for leadership educators. Lauren shares her experience as a participant last year; Kerry and Rian provide insight on the planning process; and Dan revisits the process of creating the program.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
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Tuesday May 17, 2022
Wrapping Up Season Six
Tuesday May 17, 2022
Tuesday May 17, 2022
In this episode, Dan and Lauren discuss critical takeaways from teaching in higher education guests this season. Both share their experiences teaching during the Spring 2022 semester, where they fell short with this season, and a big project on the horizon. This is the last episode of the teaching in higher education season.
Click here to register for the 2022 ILA Leadership Education Academy!

Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
Integrating Your Leadership Learning Into Your Teaching Practice
Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
In this mini-episode, Lauren shares three ways she integrates new learning into her teaching practice. She outlines the benefits of discussing ideas with fellow educators and what her CliftonStrengths talent themes taught her about brainstorming.

Tuesday Apr 12, 2022
Teaching Unprepared Students with Dr. Kathleen Gabriel
Tuesday Apr 12, 2022
Tuesday Apr 12, 2022
In this episode, Dan and Lauren invite Dr. Kathleen Gabriel to share her work, helping others understand and develop high school and college students. During the discussion, Gabriel offers ideas for leadership educators seeking to connect and engage with students in the classroom. In addition, she explains the ideas and strategies she applied in teaching high school and college students. Check out her books here!

Tuesday Mar 29, 2022
Creating Significant Learning Experiences with Dr. Dee Fink
Tuesday Mar 29, 2022
Tuesday Mar 29, 2022
In this episode, Dr. Dee Fink shares insight and strategies from his work creating significant learning experiences in higher education. Dan and Lauren share elements of his work that have helped them teach leadership education courses. Dr. Fink makes recommendations for building trust in classrooms and learning the situational factors that his students brought to the classroom.
Some resources mentioned in this episode include:
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Tuesday Mar 22, 2022
Tuesday Mar 22, 2022
In Part Two of a Two, Jessica Chung and Christie Navarro join Dan and Lauren for insight into leadership education during a complex time. Jessica and Christie discuss co-editing the special issue of New Directions for Student Leadership #172 using the Co-Inquiry process and their approaches to teaching and programming during multiple pandemics.

Tuesday Mar 15, 2022
Tuesday Mar 15, 2022
In Part One of Two, Dr. Darren Pierre and John Weng join Dan and Lauren to explore the use of the co-Inquiry process in editing the Winter 2021 Issue #172 of New Directions for Student Leadership, "Leadership Education through Complex Transitions". Weng and Pierre highlight the personal and professional benefits of engaging in this process during a turbulent period in higher education.

Tuesday Mar 08, 2022
Tuesday Mar 08, 2022
In this episode, Dr. Richard Boyatzis, award-winning professor, researcher, and author shares his background in leadership education. He explains how his scientific background and love of music show up in his approach to teaching and learning and his research and teaching on social and emotional intelligence.

Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
Tuesday Feb 22, 2022
In this episode, author, teacher, and consultant, Dr. Stephen Brookfield, provides his perspective on teaching and learning in higher education. He shares his most recent work, Becoming a White Antiracist, and his love for playing in a pop-punk rock-and-roll band. Some resources mentioned in this episode include:
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Tuesday Feb 15, 2022
What Can You Learn From Breaking Your Lectures with Dr. Barbi Honeycutt
Tuesday Feb 15, 2022
Tuesday Feb 15, 2022
In this episode, Dan and Lauren exchange strategies and stories for turning your lecture into an engaging educational session with Dr. Barbi Honeycutt, faculty developer, facilitator, and host of The Lecture Breakers Podcast. Barbi relays strategies from past podcast guests and other teaching ideas from her practice as an educator. Dan and Lauren offer classroom activities from teaching undergraduate and graduate courses on group dynamics and leadership education.
Resources mentioned in this episode include:
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Tuesday Feb 08, 2022
Teaching in Higher Ed with Dr. Bonni Stachowiak
Tuesday Feb 08, 2022
Tuesday Feb 08, 2022
In this episode, Dr. Bonni Stachowiak, host of the popular Teaching in Higher Ed Podcast, highlights innovative strategies and resources to improve learning in curricular and co-curricular programs. Dan shares the connection to his teaching and research in leadership education, while Lauren details her experience applying some of Bonni's strategies to her leadership courses.

Tuesday Feb 01, 2022
Welcome to Season Six of the The Leadership Educator Podcast!
Tuesday Feb 01, 2022
Tuesday Feb 01, 2022
Dan and Lauren return for season six of the podcast. This season, the duo talks to the people behind the most helpful and popular resources for teaching and learning. Listeners will learn more about the application of pedagogical frameworks to leadership education. As always, the hosts and guests will share resources and teaching activities to engage in the classroom that's still navigating multiple pandemics.
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Wednesday Dec 22, 2021
Wednesday Dec 22, 2021
In this episode, we sit down with Drs. Rich Whitney and Jasmine Collins to discuss the process of proposing and editing the NDSL special issue on racial equity in leadership education. Both share how the issue impacted their teaching; all share resources used to teach leadership education to students from various backgrounds in the classroom and co-curricular programs. Check out Issue 171 of New Directions for Student Leadership, "Advancing Racial Equity in Leadership Education: Centering Marginalized Institutional Contexts" here.